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evobowhunter
02-23-2012, 03:56 PM
This is always a fun thread. Who do you think makes the most accurate gun out of the box without special work or what was your best factory gun accuracy. Mine is a regular ole weatherby vanguard 30-06. At 100 yards the thing has shot .358 in groups with factory ammo. Wish i had a pictures of me groups but i dont. I think savage makes a pretty darn good gun for out of the box accuracy for the money too.

TS2
02-23-2012, 04:26 PM
my choice
Sako or Tikka

Spazzcdnm
02-23-2012, 04:47 PM
My Remington 700 .270 is AMAZINGLY accurate! Posted sub MOA groups once I got a good load made up for it! 1.5" groups with factory ammo.

goosebyfluflu
02-23-2012, 04:49 PM
Knight Muzzleloaders were the most accurate out of the box guns I have ever shot. I heard they(under a different name) are making a few but is hush hush!

swampybuck
02-23-2012, 04:53 PM
i have enjoyed my shooting remington 5r, more accurate then i am

30-06
02-23-2012, 05:46 PM
Winchester model 70

mp15
02-23-2012, 05:53 PM
My Remington 700 .270 is AMAZINGLY accurate! Posted sub MOA groups once I got a good load made up for it! 1.5" groups with factory ammo.

Agreed. My remington .270 is within 1" of the bullseye at 100 yards. It's a great rifle.

rembrandt
02-23-2012, 05:57 PM
Tikka and the new Savage bolt action rifle!

Buckshot243
02-23-2012, 06:02 PM
Winchester model 70
X2, Although there are alot of guns very accurate out-of-the-box today, but have always been a fan of the model 70
The "Rifleman's" rifle

lee31
02-23-2012, 06:03 PM
Remington model 700 or Savage are the best factory rifles I have many that will shoot .5moa or less @100yds

Zrt1200
02-23-2012, 06:21 PM
The new TC venture is guaranteed 1" MOA at 100 yards and it is at a reasonable price to boot.

12 Gauge
02-23-2012, 06:52 PM
Savage makes some rifles that are pretty darn accurate right out of the box, i've seen several 1/2 moa groups with handloads straight out of the box which inpressed me to say the least.

wvadon
02-23-2012, 08:27 PM
Rem 700 VS , .308 , Mark 4 Tact ....
Always a fan of American Made, love my 700's

xman59
02-23-2012, 09:33 PM
use to have a ruger stainless 308,, right out of the box no mods or work at all, with a tasco 4x16 scope except i used handloads,,, in one trip to the range with two different loads,, it produced a .158" group and as if that wasnt enough i followed that with a .037",, i sold it to a co worker years ago when i needed some cash

Mongo
02-24-2012, 01:07 AM
:DI have a Remington PSS in .223 have owned the same rifle in .308 and 300 Win Mag, I would put them up against any custom gun for accuracy. Over here in the UK Remington are the most popular action for custom work, and a varmint shooters first choice.:D

Dot-q
02-24-2012, 04:03 AM
TC Venture -.308 with Hornady Custom SST, I don't think it gets much better...

FireChief41
02-24-2012, 05:05 AM
every remington i own came out of the box and fired very nicely. until i switched scopes that is

91bravo
02-24-2012, 05:14 AM
Savage makes an extremely accurate rifle out of the box.

BadgerT
02-24-2012, 05:20 AM
This is always a fun thread. Who do you think makes the most accurate gun out of the box without special work or what was your best factory gun accuracy. Mine is a regular ole weatherby vanguard 30-06. At 100 yards the thing has shot .358 in groups with factory ammo. Wish i had a pictures of me groups but i dont. I think savage makes a pretty darn good gun for out of the box accuracy for the money too.

The action on your vanguard is produced by a company called Howa, They turn out some fine shooting rifles. the Howa 1500 has been produced under several names, S&W 1500, Wetherby Vanguard, Mossber 1500, among others. Very good aut of the box.

Jacksss
02-24-2012, 06:12 AM
I would have to go with my Weatherby Accumark 30-378, straight out of the box accuracy. That dude is a tack driver with no work done, at 100 yds.

Kb83
02-24-2012, 06:55 AM
I agree on the Remington 700's and savages. My Remington 700 in 22-250 was a tack drive out of the box and even better with handloads. One that I haven't heard mentioned yet but but I feel needs to be is the marlin XL7. The accuracy of this gun shocked me! Bought one in .270 win and shot 1" with federal ammo! Wow. Working up handloads now. Basically a rem stock and action with a savage barrel and a Timney accu style trigger system. Next one will be a Tika have heard great things about these.

280 Ackley
02-24-2012, 08:43 AM
Remington & Savage are hard to beat.

fordhuntr
02-24-2012, 09:16 AM
The new TC venture is guaranteed 1" MOA at 100 yards and it is at a reasonable price to boot.


I was very suprised at my venture in the 300win mag, i have some remington 700s and winchester 70 featherlight and they have nothing on the venture as far as accuracy goes. When i opened it up for the first time I thought there was no way that it was going to be that accurate when I looked over the stock and fore end, looks and feels cheap.......but it shoots.

Lrbergin
02-24-2012, 09:29 AM
Tikka out of the box. Probably Sako too but never owned one.

Marine96
02-24-2012, 09:37 AM
Savage makes an extremely accurate rifle out of the box.

Always loved Savage rifles because of their ability to produce a rifle that doesn't need modification to shoot better. One day I'll take the short drive down to Westfield and take the tour of the factory. Not sure why I haven't being only about 45min drive south of me.

Olink
02-24-2012, 06:46 PM
I'm partial to Remington 700 BDLs, but they usually need a trigger job and aftermarket stock to REALLY shine.

That being said, a TC Icon will be my next bolt action rifle. They are one extremely well built rifle, and come from the factory with one heck of a stock and a very solid bolt and trigger.

cariss
02-24-2012, 06:47 PM
I have to vote for Savage. Every single one that I own is a tackdriver. I have a Model 16 in .300WSM that I put a bullet through the previous hole at 25 yards. It was only the third bullet that I fired from the rifle. Went over to the 100yd range and placed three bullets in the middle that I could cover with a quarter. Six bullets to sight in a brand new rifle. The only thing that I did to the rifle was mount a Nikon scope on it and bore sight it. No complaints here about accuracy out of the box!

rgcanfield86
02-24-2012, 06:54 PM
I am with the OP on this one. The Vangaurd is highly over looked by people. My Vangaurd 30-06 produced .6" groups out of the box with factory loads and after playing with loading it touches at 100 yards now with 3 shots. I have now started to adjust the trigger around to see how it will do. My Vangaurd .270 I used to have had .4" groups at 100 yds with factory ammo. You cannot get that kind of accuracy from any other gun out there under $500 that I have found or heard of. There are others out there, but not in the same price range. I can only imagine what the new Sub MOA Vangaurds are doing since their regulars are so good.

I will state that the new Marlin series has the best stock trigger IMO. That thing is light, crisp and has no creep at all. Breaks like a glass rod, but I was only getting .8" of a group at 100 yds with that one..........:rolleyes:................too bad it wasn't mine and I had to give it back

okie
02-24-2012, 07:16 PM
Nearly anything falling out of the box that is a bolt action has a leg up in the accuracy game...;)

HELLER
02-24-2012, 07:19 PM
probablySAVAGE

okie
02-24-2012, 07:23 PM
Salvages rarely suck at accuracy, if I just didn't have to look at that nut!

HELLER
02-24-2012, 07:33 PM
Salvages rarely suck at accuracy, if I just didn't have to look at that nut!
theysureaintpretty.thatsforsure

musimon
02-24-2012, 09:23 PM
My Remington 700 .270 is AMAZINGLY accurate! Posted sub MOA groups once I got a good load made up for it! 1.5" groups with factory ammo.

^^^^^^ This 100%

moecarama
02-24-2012, 09:51 PM
Salvages rarely suck at accuracy, if I just didn't have to look at that nut!

I would have to agree with it being ugly; the beauty of it is you can change out the barrel to a new caliber in about 20 minutes.

infest
02-24-2012, 10:23 PM
CZ 22lr any model. 5 shots inside of a quarter at 50 yards on basically any gun from the factory.

okie
02-25-2012, 06:03 AM
I would have to agree with it being ugly; the beauty of it is you can change out the barrel to a new caliber in about 20 minutes.

True tis a wonderful concept along with being able to swap bolt heads. Switch barrel city...

safe cracker
02-26-2012, 11:14 AM
My Remington 700 .270 is AMAZINGLY accurate! Posted sub MOA groups once I got a good load made up for it! 1.5" groups with factory ammo.

my remington 700 .270 is the same way.

FootedShaft
02-26-2012, 11:44 AM
Hands down a Rem 700 !!! Been a LOT of benchrest records set with one.
Bill

Tenmilestyle
02-26-2012, 11:59 AM
Most any of the newer guns i have got shoot plenty accurate for what they are designed for and cost to accuracy ratio lol. The single most imperessive production gun i have is a Bushmaster special varmiter 223. Of corse many AR's are good shooters. But i have spent time with 3 others of this same gun with good results but this one stands apart. At 100y in 3 shot sessions it will put round after round in .38 on a good day with .5 acheived easily. This may not be stellar to the guys who are totally gonzo with shooting groups but it's superb for me. This gun is around $2000+ the way i have it set up. The second most accurate gun i have had in my ownership was a Savage model 110 low grade model in 22-250 It was a $250 ugly peice of work and i think the trigger felt like it was a 12lb pull with gravel in it! Even so it would do .5 groups with quality factorty ammo.

haywoodhunter
02-26-2012, 01:54 PM
Out of the box my savage .243 has shot 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards with $18 a box Winchester cxp2s

30-378
02-26-2012, 03:43 PM
I've tried just about every brand out there and I feel that The Sako TRG I have is the most accurate out of the box rifle I've ever owned (sub outside to outside 1/2" groups at 200 yards). I've had a few tack driver 22-250 Remingtons as well. I'm very curious of how my new 6.5 x284 is going to shoot.

Ghost23
02-26-2012, 11:32 PM
Savage!

Passin'Thru
02-27-2012, 05:46 AM
Nearly anything falling out of the box that is a bolt action has a leg up in the accuracy game...;)

X2..I have
700ADL in .270 win.(cheapie from wal-mart)
Tc Venture in .300wsm(cheapie from anywhere)
Howa 1500 in .243 win(cheapie)
Savage model 16 in .308(reasonable)
Ruger mark II in .270 win(most expensive)
TC venture predator in 22-250(reasonable)

All of these have printed 1" or less except for 1 with my father shooting them. He is a much better shot than me. Which is why I would say that most factory guns today will out shoot the shooter, and I am a perfect example.

Clint

Sako300wsm
02-28-2012, 04:08 AM
Sako all the way!!

BowKil
02-28-2012, 04:40 AM
'Out of the box' Remington R-15 VTR Predetor .223 shooting Georgia Arms 55 gr. V-Max bullet at 100 yards. Not too shabby for an 'auto-loader'.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/Eric300_photos/Targets/r15010.jpg

Or my SA M1-A National Match .308 .........

highwaynorth
02-28-2012, 06:05 AM
Most any of the newer guns i have got shoot plenty accurate for what they are designed for and cost to accuracy ratio lol. The single most imperessive production gun i have is a Bushmaster special varmiter 223. Of corse many AR's are good shooters. But i have spent time with 3 others of this same gun with good results but this one stands apart. At 100y in 3 shot sessions it will put round after round in .38 on a good day with .5 acheived easily. This may not be stellar to the guys who are totally gonzo with shooting groups but it's superb for me. This gun is around $2000+ the way i have it set up. The second most accurate gun i have had in my ownership was a Savage model 110 low grade model in 22-250 It was a $250 ugly peice of work and i think the trigger felt like it was a 12lb pull with gravel in it! Even so it would do .5 groups with quality factorty ammo.

I have the Bushmaster Varminter also. Mine shot under 1" 5 shot groups easily at 100 yds with 55grn sp ultra max factory reloaded
ammo. With some good V max reloads I'm sure I can easily cut the group size in half.

Tenmilestyle
02-28-2012, 08:31 AM
I have the Bushmaster Varminter also. Mine shot under 1" 5 shot groups easily at 100 yds with 55grn sp ultra max factory reloaded
ammo. With some good V max reloads I'm sure I can easily cut the group size in half.

mine groups with v max or blitz kings almost identical! Handloads will tighten it up for ya.

OHIOARCHER36
02-28-2012, 09:09 AM
Austin halleck 50 cal . 3 shot group , cut holes at a 100yds .

Sticky
02-28-2012, 03:24 PM
I'm partial to Remington 700 BDLs, but they usually need a trigger job and aftermarket stock to REALLY shine.


I agree with you there, mine has had both, but was a tackdriver from the get go!

I also have a Savage MKII in .22 and it was a tackdriver out of the box, though it's an older one without accutrigger and the trigger is pretty bad (next on the list of work to be done.. lol )

hoyt3
02-29-2012, 08:19 AM
Factory ammo? Tikka. Reloads? Tikka, Winchester, Remington, Browning etc.

Hemi
02-29-2012, 01:36 PM
I would have to say Savage also.

Zrt1200
02-29-2012, 06:27 PM
I've tried just about every brand out there and I feel that The Sako TRG I have is the most accurate out of the box rifle I've ever owned (sub outside to outside 1/2" groups at 200 yards). I've had a few tack driver 22-250 Remingtons as well. I'm very curious of how my new 6.5 x284 is going to shoot.

That's impressive!! I take that is with hand loads??

Cg2737
03-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Rem. 700 in .204 has been the best out of the box for me.

BOWHUNTERZ7
03-01-2012, 08:50 PM
Remington 700

30-378
03-02-2012, 04:26 PM
That's impressive!! I take that is with hand loads??
Yes Sir but it shoots just about anything very well. The only time this weapon ever grouped over 1/2 MOA I found it had some copper fouling which was easily removed and it went right back to same ragged hole groups.

husky390
03-02-2012, 04:52 PM
My 13 year old Savage 110 with a factory muzzle brake chambered in .300 win mag. It was accurate right out of the box and shoots even better with a Timney trigger. It's ugly, but I didn't buy it to look at it.

Allagash Hunter
03-02-2012, 06:30 PM
From what i've experienced Savage will match or exceed anything in my closet. With that said the best shooter I have is my Knight Wolverine @ 75 yds.

30pointbuck
03-04-2012, 07:16 AM
Remington 700

Savage 110

Porterhouse83
03-04-2012, 10:24 AM
My most accurate rifle ever was a very cheap savage 30-06 bolt action. My more expensive rifles couldnt touch it.

bosty2
03-04-2012, 07:41 PM
I'm partial to Remington 700 BDLs, but they usually need a trigger job and aftermarket stock to REALLY shine.

That being said, a TC Icon will be my next bolt action rifle. They are one extremely well built rifle, and come from the factory with one heck of a stock and a very solid bolt and trigger.

I own 2 of them...one in .300 WIN MAG and the other in .308...they are UNBELIEVEABLE!!!! The .300 is shoothing 1" group @ 200 yards with Hornady 180 grain SST factory ammo! And the quality is unmatched for a factory gun.

josh_todd
03-06-2012, 07:31 AM
another vote for savage my model 10 in .308 will shoot!!!

Shoalwater
03-07-2012, 03:54 PM
Savage, have a 12FV in 22-250 that will shoot factory Hornady 55gr Vmax under .25" all day long. I got one of those 1 in million that will out shoot most any custom rifle. I have been offered large amounts of money for it, but no way I will ever part with it.

JonM
03-12-2012, 01:55 AM
I've had 3 Savage rifles that were pretty impressive right out of the box. 1 Remington that was the same way. I think Savage has the best bang for the buck. You can get a better rifle but not for the same price.

Assassin73
03-12-2012, 03:21 AM
im partial to the remington 700. My dad has a remington 30.06 that i think is a model 7400? But im not positive on that. It is semi auto and he routinely puts multiple bullets through one hole at 100 yds.

Flintlock1776
03-18-2012, 12:00 PM
My REM 700SS 30.06 has been tired and true from the day I go it!

Flintlock1776
03-18-2012, 12:02 PM
I found each gun is particular and there is not any one brand that accomplishes your goal right out of the box. My Rem 700SS hates Rem ammo; can tolerate Winchester ammo; and is sweet and accurate with Hornday.

My Marlin prefers Rem ammo.

Go figure!

racinjason
03-22-2012, 04:27 PM
TC icon in 30 tc and my new Rock River Arms advanced tactical hunter are the tightest shooting rifles ive ever shot or have seen shot straight from the factory with factory amunition

7mm08fan
04-05-2012, 12:13 PM
Frrom years of experience, I can't complain about Sako, Tikka, Browning's and now adding the FN Winchester. I don't reload and have found all the aforementioned to deliver MOA at 100 yards with several different factory loads. That was not my experience with Remington 700's or Ruger 77's. Have never shot a Savage or Kimber. A Couple of Weatherby's I had were good on 1st shot but the 2nd and 3rd were questionable.

polaris754
04-06-2012, 02:46 AM
Dang there all too good these days , we really have it that good , I would have to say my /t/c icon 308/ ruger m77 target 308,/ and my rem300 umag r one hollers all day long,all with factory loads Its amazing!

TMan51
04-07-2012, 06:10 AM
Great/Interesting thread.

Lt Sporter Weight - I have shot more 0.25/5 shot groups @ 100yds with my CZ 527 in .223 than any other rifle I've owned.
Heavy Varmint - I owned a M700V that I used for Production Class Bench shoots, and it would shoot < 0.25" all day long.
Hunting rifles - My CDL Whelen will land four groups of 3 shots under 1/2" @ 100yds, with 225gr Sierra's, and 250gr Hornady SP's, and will shoot under 2" at 300yds.

But this year I'm gonna' add a .223 Savage Hog Hunter to my safe, and actually use the switch barrel and bolt head feature, just because I have to see for myself if all those guys are pullin' my leg. I'm thinking .17 X .223, and 6mm X .223 are lurking in my future.

okie
04-09-2012, 05:19 PM
Great/Interesting thread.

Lt Sporter Weight - I have shot more 0.25/5 shot groups @ 100yds with my CZ 527 in .223 than any other rifle I've owned.
Heavy Varmint - I owned a M700V that I used for Production Class Bench shoots, and it would shoot < 0.25" all day long.
Hunting rifles - My CDL Whelen will land four groups of 3 shots under 1/2" @ 100yds, with 225gr Sierra's, and 250gr Hornady SP's, and will shoot under 2" at 300yds.

But this year I'm gonna' add a .223 Savage Hog Hunter to my safe, and actually use the switch barrel and bolt head feature, just because I have to see for myself if all those guys are pullin' my leg. I'm thinking .17 X .223, and 6mm X .223 are lurking in my future.

While your at it do a .223AI with Barnes TSX's. 8 twist ought to do it....

oneshotweller
04-14-2012, 02:35 PM
I'm a huge fan of the model 700 myself, but I do have a vanguard 338 win mag shot it today 210gr Barnes Vortx 100 yrd group.1095