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rob-c
06-02-2012, 05:29 PM
i will be buying my first pistol and i want to hunt with it,so i am looking at the taurus in 44.but i have read mixed reviews.i need a honest review of the newer taurus
thanks..

the critter
06-02-2012, 10:29 PM
I have never sot one in 44, but I have shot one in 454 Casull. From what I remember it was a great shooting gun, Taurus makes some fine handguns.

BadgerT
06-03-2012, 03:26 AM
I own a raging bull chambered in 480 Ruger. The gun is solid and accurate, nice finish (SS) and great grips (recoil absorbing). I hasten to recommend a .44 mag as a first handgun though. To get used to proper tecnique of sight alignment, sight picture, and good trigger control, I would strongly suggest a quality .22 handgun (maybe one of the Taurus Trackers) for a first handgun so you don't develop bad habits from learning handgun shooting on a caliber with excessive blast and recoil.

rob-c
06-03-2012, 03:47 AM
I own a raging bull chambered in 480 Ruger. The gun is solid and accurate, nice finish (SS) and great grips (recoil absorbing). I hasten to recommend a .44 mag as a first handgun though. To get used to proper tecnique of sight alignment, sight picture, and good trigger control, I would strongly suggest a quality .22 handgun (maybe one of the Taurus Trackers) for a first handgun so you don't develop bad habits from learning handgun shooting on a caliber with excessive blast and recoil.

thanks badger.ya i am torn, i am a big man and i am not recoil shy with long guns but i have not fired a pistol before.i might buy a 357 and start with some 38 specials then work my way up to some full power 357 mags.the problem is i do not have alot of money,i really can not buy 3 or 4 pistols to work my way up to a big magnum.i really like the ruger super blackhawk but read all the reviews of the taures with the grips and ports really taking the recoil out of a 44 mag.so ya i dont know...

BadgerT
06-03-2012, 04:38 AM
Rob, I sure understand the money thing. If you really want a huntin' handgun, the .44 is a better choice. To learn to shoot it well, you can always go with lighter .44 spl. rounds before going to the mags. I still believe you will be ahead in the game if you check classifieds, pawn shops or local cafes for a good used .22 revolver, you will be surprised how good a deal you can find sometimes and I promise you it will get shot waaaaay more than your .44 and make a better shot out of you.

Back to the original OP, the Raging Bull is a good gun and will handle your itch for handgun hunting just fine.

SonnyThomas
06-03-2012, 06:21 PM
Okay, not knocking the Raging Bull, just saying.....

The .44 Ruger Super BlackHawk is one fine pistol and less expensive- I perfer black, but stainless works too. .44 Special ammo would make for a kitten to shoot and good learning. Badger didn't note something that is rarely noted. .44 magnums are not shot double action all that much and I sure don't know anyone that hunts double action only. Of all the 44s I've owned and all the time I've owned 44s the only time I used double action was plinking and in Pin Shoot events.

the critter
06-03-2012, 06:30 PM
I am with Badg here, the 44 mag is an awesome hunting caliber, but since you haven't shot alot of pistols I would look as grabbing a 22. to practice with....

I totally understand the money thing, but you can find used 22 pistols for next to nothing at pawn and gun shops, and if you get one of those along with the 44, it will help you train alot better as far as shooting a handgun in general.

rugersol
06-04-2012, 07:49 AM
Okay, not knocking the Raging Bull, just saying.....

The .44 Ruger Super BlackHawk is one fine pistol and less expensive- I perfer black, but stainless works too. .44 Special ammo would make for a kitten to shoot and good learning. Badger didn't note something that is rarely noted. .44 magnums are not shot double action all that much and I sure don't know anyone that hunts double action only. Of all the 44s I've owned and all the time I've owned 44s the only time I used double action was plinking and in Pin Shoot events.

Ya ... Blackhawk's are 10x the gun at half the price!

Also, the grip design lends itself very nicely to reducing felt recoil! ... at which, a shorter bbl may exhibit less recoil! ... I'd go with a 5.5in.

Reloading might seem like a bit much to take on, as well ... but factory .44spl is very expensive ... but .44 cast bullets, are NOT! Pick up a $30 Lee single-stage and a set of $35 Lee dies and you're well on your way to reusing your brass, indefinitely ... for about $0.03/ea for a new primer, and $0.02/ea for powder, and $0.10 or less for cast bullets ... that's $15/100rd! ... make up the cost of that press and die-set, in NO time!

BadgerT
06-04-2012, 08:27 AM
OP didn't express an interest in the Super Blackhawk, but I certainly agree with the input of Sonny and Rugersol. I hunt with a Super Blackhawk myself, and I would never discourage anyone from learning handloading,

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rugersol
06-04-2012, 10:56 AM
I think this is a great low-cost way to break into reloading ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkZ0eue9te8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkZ0eue9te8)

Here's a video on using the "Ram Prime" ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKkwE0o-szM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKkwE0o-szM)

Lee Hand Press Kit ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/650614/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/650614/)

Ya'll either need to reuse the one 'er two bushings that come with the kit, or buy extra bushings ... if the former, ya'll need lock-rings that actually lock ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/236200/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/236200/)

Here's a great set of carbide (no case-lube, needed) dies for .45 Colt (ya otherwise need to pic the dies for your specific caliber) ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/159803/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/159803/)

Best to buy a reloading manual ... AND READ IT ... so ya don't blow up yer gun ... 'er anything even more important ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/217655/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/217655/)

The dies will come with a "dipper" ya can use to measure your powder ... it'll also include a "load-data" sheet ... showing reasonable powders ya can use, with that dipper ... and the resultant velocities using various bullets (weights).

Ya'll also need some 000 steel wool, to clean the fired cases ... never run a dirty case into a die! (if ya got extra money, ya can otherwise get a tumbler, media, and case-polish ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/414369/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/414369/) ... http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ECONOLINE-Blast-Media-2MVR4 (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ECONOLINE-Blast-Media-2MVR4) ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/888439/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/888439/)).

If ya want/need more leverage, ya can also get a bench-mounted press (this one don't use the breach-lock bushings, and don't otherwise come with the other items in the hand-press kit) ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/807734/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/807734/) ... (here's one that uses the bushings ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/176078/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/176078/)) ... if ya don't get a press or kit with the "Ram Prime", ya can otherwise buy it separately ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/728999/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/728999/) ... (with carbide dies, ya won't otherwise need case-lube ... here's a funnel ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/974498/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/974498/))

A bullet-puller might come in handy! ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/630146/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/630146/)

With the "dipper", ya don't need a scale ... but, if ya got the extra cash, it don't hurt to have one handy, neither (and this one has the same exact accuracy, if not better, than the $140 Dillon) ... http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/jennings-jscale-hp100x.html (http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/jennings-jscale-hp100x.html)

Along with the scale, I'll probly get some flamage for this ... but ya don't really need a dial-caliper ... but here's one, if ya like ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/822768/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/822768/) ... reloading can be dangerous ... particularly if ya don't read a manual on all the intricacies ... if ya otherwise do, ya'll quickly understand why, with a dipper, and a comparable sample factory round (sometimes, even without) ya don't really need a scale or caliper ... conversely, owning and using both, won't be what keeps ya from blowing up your gun!

rugersol
06-04-2012, 11:41 AM
... here's some nice cast bullets that'll run ya 'bout $0.08/ea ... http://shop.snscasting.com/45-LC-200-Gr-RNFP-45-200RNFP-500.htm (http://shop.snscasting.com/45-LC-200-Gr-RNFP-45-200RNFP-500.htm) ... I'd keep 'em this side of 900fps, though!

I've also had good luck with these and a fair dose of AA-7 ... over 1,100fps ... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2046217274/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2046217274/)

... again, all .45 Colt ... otherwise, your pick your caliber of choice!

the critter
06-04-2012, 08:06 PM
Some good info here...I didn't know that the balckhawk was cheaper than the bull.....

rob-c
06-05-2012, 01:32 AM
thanks for all the help guys,alot of opinions but have all of you shot the taurus guns,or are you just giving your opinions on hear say? i have looked at the super black hawk alot.but new or used atleast around my neck of the woods the taurus beats the super blackhawk in price every time.the biggest thing that drew me to the taurus was, the weight,the grip and the ports all to help with recoil..as for reloading yep have been looking into this to,i have a savage 99 in 300 that i could reload for too.

BadgerT
06-05-2012, 04:27 AM
I don't own one in a .44, but like I mentioned, I do have one in 480 Ruger. vey nice shooting handgun.1280

rugersol
06-05-2012, 06:03 AM
around my neck of the woods the taurus beats the super blackhawk in price every time.

Found this surprising ... so I did a quick check ... Ruger SKU S45N-C (5.5in .44 Super Blackhawk) is $542 ... same exact dealer, Taurus SKU M44-8SS (8in ported .44) is $560 ... same exact dealer again, Taurus SKU 444B8 (8in .44 Raging Bull) is $566 ... these are all brand new from the distributor (Davidson's).

If you're concerned about recoil, pound for pound, nothing recoils less than a SAA. If ya otherwise wanna carry a 4 lbs revolver (vs. under 3 lbs), and deal with the report of porting, I 'spose the Taurus MIGHT be as light-recoiling. Either way, if ya later decide to sell it, ya'll lose an extra $100+ on the Taurus ... presuming ya can find a buyer.

Good luck!

rob-c
06-05-2012, 11:13 AM
Found this surprising ... so I did a quick check ... Ruger SKU S45N-C (5.5in .44 Super Blackhawk) is $542 ... same exact dealer, Taurus SKU M44-8SS (8in ported .44) is $560 ... same exact dealer again, Taurus SKU 444B8 (8in .44 Raging Bull) is $566 ... these are all brand new from the distributor (Davidson's).

If you're concerned about recoil, pound for pound, nothing recoils less than a SAA. If ya otherwise wanna carry a 4 lbs revolver (vs. under 3 lbs), and deal with the report of porting, I 'spose the Taurus MIGHT be as light-recoiling. Either way, if ya later decide to sell it, ya'll lose an extra $100+ on the Taurus ... presuming ya can find a buyer.

Good luck!

ok, but you are not doing a apple to apple comparison.yes i know the SBH is not the same as the RB. but you are looking at a SBH with 5.5 inch barrel and a RB with a 8.5 inch barrel.if i was going to get the SBH it would have the 7.5 that they offer them in.
went to cheaper than dirt and this is what i found...
super balckhawk s/s 7.5 inch barrel $528
taurus model 44 s/s 8.5 inch barrel $520
taurus R/B s/s 8.5 $ inch barrel $527
ruger SBH 4 inch barrel $517
taurus model 44 s/s 4.5 inch barrel $485

SonnyThomas
06-05-2012, 08:24 PM
I guess it's where you shop. Weigh wise, the Super BlackHawk is far easier on the hip. I carry my double actions in a shoulder holster.
Can't remember how the trigger was on the Taurus I tried, but my SA Rugers are child's play for making them they way you want and there are spring kits for them.

If a Taurus is what you want then I'd buy a Taurus.